Labmama pointed out something that i didnt think of; The idea of our group was never to criticise anyones work, and in fact wont be tollerated, its is just a forum to post some of our works to share with others and thats it. now asking for opinons or help is another matter and welcomed if asked for, I want everyone to feel comfortable being able to post there and not intimidated.  So i know that there is another Poe hiding out there.    Thanks LabMama !!!!!